Sunday, November 06, 2005

Gay marriage and the Constitution

This is sort of off the top of my head.

There are two completely separate Constitutional arguments for gay marriage, one (very) strong, one weaker (but I believe winnable).

Under the first argument, states are free to define marriage however they like, subject to their own state constitutions (Massachusetts', for example, mandates gay marriage). However, state laws must be given "full faith and credit" by other states, meaning that a gay couple that gets married in one state must be treated as married in another state, regardless of that state's definition of marriage.

The clear analog is common-law marriages. Some states do not recognize common-law marriage. However, if a couple is considered common-aw married in one state, then they move to another state, the second state is required by the Constitution to treat them as married.

Currently, there is a Federal statute called the "defense of marriage act", or DOMA, which states that gay marriage need not be given full faith and credit. There have been no challenges to this law, because any such challenge would be "unripe"(no one has been placed in a situation to be affected by the law). Once a challenge is brought, I cannot see any way that the law will survive Constitutional muster. This, I believe, will be the ultimate resolution.

The weaker argument (although one which I believe is correct) would actually determine that gay marriage is man-dated (pun intended) by the Constitution. Sexual orientation has been explicitly ruled to not be a Constitutionally protected category. Of course, that could always change, but I don't think it's necessary.

There are several "levels" of Constitutional protection for discrimination based upon membership in a class. Laws which discriminate based on race, for example, aresubject to "strict scrutiny", meaning that the law must be narrowly tailored to meet a necessary government interest.

Discrimination based upon gender is subject to "middle scrutiny". This means that any law which makes a discrimination based upon gender must be closely related to an important government interest. Limiting marriage to heterosexual couples arguably discriminates based on gender, in that a man is granted a right that a women is not. To wit: the man can marry a woman; for example, Angelina Jolie (I will address the counter-argument momentarily). This is government discrimination against women, and must pass middle scrutiny (Im sure you see that I could reverse the terms and say it was discriminating against men as well).

I have never seen any rational description of an important government interest that is served by limiting marriage to heterosexual couples. If there is no important government interest served, there can be no discrimination based on gender.

Here's the counter argument: "Steve, you dumbass", you say, "marriage doesn't discriminate based on gender. Everyone is free to marry someone of the opposite sex." I agree that the situation can be framed in that manner. That's why I think this argument is weaker than the one above. However, if you look at this rule coldly, it seems very clear to me that there is a line being drawn based on gender. At core, men are able to do something women are not. Similarly, women are able to do something men are not. The fact that these rights "cancel out" is immaterial from an equal protection standpoint. Separate but equal is not sufficient for equal protection.

13 Comments:

At 7:32 AM, Blogger The Mean Guy said...

not arguing this point, just playing devil's advocate and interested in your reply.

"marriage" is a construct that has historically been defined as a union between a man and a woman. why is it important that the term marriage be broadened to include same sex unions? if same sex unions were given the same protections/tax penalties/insurance coverages as marriages would that be sufficient? why the hub bub about the term?

 
At 8:33 AM, Blogger Steve72 said...

Valid question. I have a couple responses:

(1) Why is the "historical" value of the word cut off at heterosexuality? Why can't the same argument be used to say that marriage "historically" allowed polygamy?

(2) Marriage is a legal term. For the government to distinguish between marriage and, for example "civil unions" in this manner serves no purpose, other than to somehow state that heterosexual relationships have something that homosexual relationships do not. As I said, separate but equal is not sufficient.

(3) If gay marriage opponents want to set heterosexual marriages apart, I recommend the term "matrimony", which is a wholly religious term, with no legal implications.

 
At 9:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've said it before. The real arument here is over money. Taxes and benefits. The moral argument is sort of moot. If you are a person who beleives it is morally wrong, then you don't beleive god is going to recognize it anyway, and what man's law says is immaterial. The real argument is that people don't want insurance companies to have to cover the partner, and tax benefits to be given to a gay couple. This takes money away from the standard heterosexual married couple.
While I don't know that I care if gay people call their partnership marriage, I do care about the potential tax implications and health insurance rates, as both are currently out of control in this country already, without this monkey wrench thrown in.

-Joe

 
At 10:43 AM, Blogger Steve72 said...

Many states already require coverage of domestic partners. Whether you think tax and otherissues are "out of control" is immaterial if they are not applied in a permissible manner.

 
At 10:50 AM, Blogger The Mean Guy said...

i'm not sure that the historical definition for "marriage" was explicitly cut off at heterosexuality. it's just a word that means male to female life commitment. similarly, the word father is defined as the direct male progenitor. should we change the definition of that word too because it only includes one sex?

marriage is not only a legal term. i think the fact that semantics also comes into play is part of the rub. if we just call it something else with equal legal status, won't it make everyone happy?

does the government distinguish between father and mother? should those just become parent from a legal standpoint?

i've never really understood why this was such an issue. maybe i'm not paying enough attention to it (because i don't really care. i mean i'd like to see gay people get their rights and all, but on my list of pet peeves and life priorities it falls pretty low for me) but it seems to me that neither side is going to give up or be happy unless they get their way. the religious right want to keep the "sanctity of marriage" and the gays just want their equal treatment. why can't we just do both? does this have to be a win-lose proposition that is going to cause sore feelings on one side or another?

 
At 11:03 AM, Blogger Steve72 said...

...What I mean by "cut off" is that people who use that argument want to limit the "historical value" of the term to only those issues that they approve of. A marriage has not always meant a union between one man and one woman. It changed to that meaning. There is no reason it can't change again. If you want to say that historical value should trump other arguments, then why shouldn't it do so all the way back? Marriage should mean any situation where a man is able to club one or more wome over the head and drag them off by their hair.

I agree that marriage is not only a legal term, but the fact that it is a legal term is sufficient for the argument. The government can not discriminate with a legal term, regardless of any non-legal meanings that term may have.

Practically speaking, it will probably end up that some other tewrm is invented. However, that offends both my sense of justice and my "sense" of Constitutional law. There is no reason...utterly none...to invent another term uinless it is to somehow grant favored status to heterosexual marriages. That is not something that the govenrment should be involved in.

 
At 8:36 PM, Blogger The Mean Guy said...

i can buy that. just for the record, i don't disagree with anything that you've said, but i do think there are two sides who aren't ever going to meet in the middle and each side will go apesh*t if they don't get their way on this issue.

 
At 4:36 AM, Blogger Steve72 said...

True. the same can be said of a bunch of issues (abortion and stem-cell research spring to mind). Politics isn't a friendly gam anymore.

 
At 6:26 AM, Blogger The Mean Guy said...

"politics isn't a friendly gam[e] anymore."

this reminds me of a concern of mine (not a strong one, mind you, but something that nags at the back of my head). at some point, the system is going to break down under it's own weight, due to outside causes (invasion/revolution), or just entropy. what's the shelf life of this government? 300 years? 500 years? 1000 years? more? meanwhile, the law is getting more and more complex. pretty soon we're going need the hypothesized "technological singularity" just so people can keep track of changes in the law...

 
At 1:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd say another 10-15 years Pete.

 
At 1:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

10 - 15 year statement said by Joe

- Joe

 
At 6:42 AM, Blogger Steve72 said...

That is a really, really good issue, and I'm going to make a post about my thoughts on it...probably tonight.

 
At 10:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"man-dated"

hahaha! you must be from the hills of western pennsylvania.

 

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